Rural Australia in the late nineteenth century Capt. Stanley and his men capture two of the four Burns brothers, Charlie and Mike. Their gang is held responsible for attacking the Hopkins farm, raping pregnant Mrs. Hopkins and murdering the whole family. Arthur Burns, the eldest brother and the gangs mastermind, remains at large has and has retreated to a mountain hideout. Capt. Stanleys proposition to Charlie is to gain pardon and - more importantly - save his beloved younger brother Mike from the gallows by finding and killing Arthur within nine days.
This film (pure cinema) is not for the faint of heart. If you're a fanof Peckinpah (The Wild Bunch)or Leonne (The Good Bad and the Ugly, Fora Few Dollars More), you'll love it. For the first time in a while Ihad left a theater and said "now that's how you make a movie." RayWinestoen as Captain Stanley, amongst other stellar performancesincluding Emily Watson, is the driving force in this movie. I amlooking forward to seeing him team up with Cave and Hillcoat again in2007.The leader of the Burns game, name escapes me, is reputed to be an"animal" and doesn't appear until mid-film much like Col. Kurtz. Thepremise is simple but it's the rich, understated nuances of the actorsthat is captivating. Any good western has urgency, like Will Kane inHigh Noon, brother sent to kill brother before younger brother is hung.There's also an amazing performance by the "guy in the bar" thatreturns to kill Guy Pierce. There is obviously an abundance of talentin Australia and the U.K.. "The Proposition" resuscitated my faith that the medium of film , atleast outside of the US, and its directors are still committed to theart and not the box office. Who knows, in a few years Hollywood couldcorrupt him into directing a live action of the Jetson's or someHollywood crap.
This review is from: The Proposition [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray) Sad to see that this great little western did not the exposure it derserved!!! It's well acted,written and paced!!! Great acting from all,Guy Pearce,Ray Winstone,John Hurt,Emily Watson,etc!!! This great film was written by Nick Cave of Bad Seeds fame!!! Great picture and sound quality that you come to expect from a Blu Ray Disc,plus there are some great extras to boot!!!(considering this disc is from First Look Studios,a pretty small independent company!)Actually this great disc has a great wealth of material for the price tag!!! A very recommended Blu Ray title!!! A+
Be grateful. That shower you use? Those things weren't always common.There weren't many in 1880s Australia, in a setting similar to the U.S.wild west. Most everyone in The Proposition is filthy and attractingflies to no end. Several people witnessing an event midway through themovie are shown with hundreds of tiny bugs on their backs, and the maincharacters find themselves squinting throughout the film to keep themout of their eyes. I was wondering at points if cg was used to add someof them. But I'm also a bit unsure as to why we saw so many. I meanobviously these characters would have a stench, but are the flies aneffort to portray something extremely realistic, or was it some sort ofmetaphor? These are filthy people, making rash decisions, performingunforgivable deeds. They are no better than the corpses which fill thescreen occasionally which are also attracting so many flies.This is one of the better westerns I've ever seen. Charlie Burns (GuyPearce) and his younger brother Mike are capture by Captain Stanley(Ray Winstone). Justice is sought for the recent slaying of a localfamily. Mike is young and quite helpless, so Stanley focuses on Charlieand offers him a deal. He will let Charlie go for the moment to seekout and kill the one really responsible for the killings: Charlie'solder brother Arthur. There isn't much choice in the matter though. Ifhe does not succeed, Mike will be hung in just over a week's time. OnChristmas actually. If he succeeds, Charlie and Mike will go free.This is not your typical western. For one, it's exceedingly violent, soI shall dust off my old Bad Boys II Violence Warning here. All sorts ofnastiness that would better be left as a surprise. What I perhaps likedthe most in the film was how these characters change in your mind. Itseems pretty clear cut at the start who the responsible parties are,and who is the "villian" and who can do no wrong. But this will not bethe case. It is also not a situation where the plot twists and turns. Iwould just rather say that the story will progress and get moreinteresting. The proposition that Stanley offers Charlie in thebeginning is certainly the setup for the film, but what are the preciseimplications for all those involved? Though the setting is a desolatearea, the cinematography is still quite breathtaking in several scenes.It even won three separate awards for cinematography, as well as itssoundtrack, last year in Australia. So I don't want to say this filmwas as good as Unforgiven, but comparisons are there. It has aneffective look, it's a different kind of western, and there is sometruly great dialogue in there. The U.S. release is quite limited, butcheck it out if you can.
This review is from: The Proposition [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray) Focuses too much on the sheriff and his wife, the story should be about the relationship between these brothers.well acted and shot, pretty....it's too bad good films rarely perform well at the box office.
I wouldn't watch "The Proposition" again, for much the same reasonsthat I don't have any Nick Cave CDs in my collection. Screenwriter NickCave is an intelligent and insightful man and there are scenes of greatintensity in this movie. However, there is little here that doesn'tfeel borrowed from other movies or classic tales. Philosophical and grisly in turns, "The Proposition" is an art houserevenge tale. It's well acted, well shot and well written but stillsomehow manages to be less than the sum of its excellent parts. Letdown by a predictable final act, Mr Cave's opus left me ambivalent. Isort of understand why he's as well respected as he is, but his moviehas no place in my DVD collection.
"The Proposition" is a fable set in the Australian outback of the late 19th century -a Western from Down Under. With its homesteading, gold rushes, outlaws, idealists, and clashes between European and native cultures, Australia is an ideal setting for a Western. Its social intricacies and harsh realities are similar to those in the U.S. at the same time, and the landscape is equally parched but more beautiful than the American Southwest. At the request of director John Hillcoat, Australian musician Nick Cave wrote his first screenplay for this film as well as its score. The massacre of a homesteading family by the outlaw Burns Gang has put Captain Morris Stanley (Ray Winstone), the British military officer in charge of law enforcement in the nearby town, under considerable pressure to bring the gang to justice. Realizing that this will require more inventive methods than a respectable man would normally entertain, Stanley makes Charlie Burns (Guy Pearce) a proposition: Stanley will let Charlie go and hold his simple-minded teenaged brother Mikey (Richard Wilson) in custody. Mikey will be executed on Christmas Day unless Charlie can find and kill his charismatic brother Arthur Burns (Danny Huston), the leader of the gang whom Stanley calls "a monster and an abomination". Charlie has 9 days to kill Arthur or young Mikey will hang. Meanwhile, the town's first citizen Eden Fletcher (David Wenham) is demanding blood.Though it is imperfect, "The Proposition" is certainly thought-provoking. I found some of the characters contrived and theatrical. And the film alludes to a lot of aboriginal issues and frontier history that Australian audiences will know more about than Americans. But the story raises basic questions of human adaptation and what it means to be "civilized". Captain Stanley and his genteel wife Martha (Emily Watson) have been cast into an infernal environment of foreign culture, lawlessness, ambition, ineptitude, horrible violence and oppressive heat. "I will civilize this place," Stanley proclaims. Though he resists abandoning his British concept of justice, perhaps naively, Stanley's attempt to adapt to his new environment instigates the events of the film: He makes Charlie Burns a Proposition. Stanley's gracious wife Martha represents civilization in this anarchic land. Her well-kept home and gentle manner seem to imply higher ideals than harsh reality will accept. But her insistence upon vengeance for her murdered friend and her willingness to exploit her husband's devotion to get it betray a crack in civilization's façade. Moviegoers may feel that Hollywood has run its course with Westerns and has little left to say. I wonder if charting new territory in American Westerns is simply too politically risky. But I have high hopes for Australian "Westerns". The land is beautiful, and the moral ambiguities and ethical dilemmas posed by disparate cultures and purposes are ripe for a screenwriter's picking. I hope "The Proposition" will be part of a large, successful genre in Australian filmmaking.The DVD (First Look Pictures 2006): "Behind the Scenes" is a documentary in 5 parts: In "Making Of" (27 min), director John Hillcoat and writer Nick Cave talk about their inspiration for the story, the cast discusses their characters, the environment in Australia of the 1880s, and filming in the outback. "Info & Script" (6 min) has some redundancies with "Making Of", but, in addition, the actors talk about the script. In "Characters" (11 min), the cast elaborates a little more on their roles. "Research and History" (18 min) is about preparation, authenticity, and production design. The conversation in "Themes" (8 min) is with John Hillcoat and Nick Cave. There is an audio commentary with director John Hillcoat and writer/composer Nick Cave. Cave comments on the music and how he structured the story. Hillcoat discusses locations, sets, actors, historical references, and the impact of the heat on filming. There is also a Photo Gallery of 18 production stills and behind-the-scenes photos, and there are some Deleted Scenes. English captions and Spanish subtitles are available for the film.
I have traveled extensively in Australia and followed many of the Australian movies and the history of the country. In my opinion, while this is a tough subject, I think it exceptionally well done, and the background location certainly supports the subject material.
I saw this film last night knowing nothing about it except for thefavorable reviews it had received. I haven't been more bored with amovie in my life. This film certainly has attractive direction andcinematography, although the story is short and simple and unable tojustify the slow pace and length of the movie. In its attempts to be a"deep" film, the script is filled with long silences and whisperynoises that are supposed to allow the viewer to reflect on the mood butend up aggravating everybody. Guy Pierce doesn't even need to actbecause, in all seriousness, he probably says about 50 words in theentire movie. The long poetic silences may make for the characters likethe burdened Captain Stanley, played by Ray Winstone, but they don'treally fit when it comes to drunk Australian outlaw gunmen. On top ofall this, the gore and violence in this film was completelyunmitigated. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against graphicdisplays f violence, but I usually like it to fit in well with thestory, instead of merely being momentary enterainment from an otherwisepointless movie. Typically, just like every other Western movie, thisfilm features the regretful outlaw who must now come to terms with hissordid past by using blank stares, stoic looks and redemption throughkilling. As you have probably guessed, this film is about aproposition. That is literally the premise of this 2hr film.
The Proposition is a very nicely shot, well-cast (Guy Pearce, Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, John Hurt, Danny Huston), but finally uninvolving little gothic Western written by Nick Cave. It is also yet another movie that was absurdly overpraised. Cave currently enjoys the dubious luxury of not being able to take a wrong step with critics - the surest recipe for artistic complacency and stagnation - and it's Cave's script that lets the film down. Admittedly, Cave has come up with a good, archetypal story (a criminal is sent to kill his brother in exchange for freedom), but he doesn't appear to be interested in writing real characters we can sympathize with, or even believe in. The dialogue is functional at best, at worst pretentious and heavy-handed. Cave's presence is felt throughout every scene and every line, and it feels like an intrusion. His penchant for murder, darkness, and quasi-Biblical subtexts works fine when it's the backdrop for Gothic ballads, but here it just seems indulgent, slightly sophomoric. Though it looks beautiful, The Proposition doesn't really amount to much, not least because the film - Cave's script - is so full of itself. It parades its "deeper" meanings and existential violence like some whiskey-soaked barfly trying to be deep but only succeeding in being annoying. The Proposition is somehow smug and self-enamored, and it has a kind of arrogance - it never bothers to develop its themes or characters or bring them to life. When all the blood and thunder is over, however much we may be impressed by the spectacle (critics bought Cave's malarky hook, line, and sinker), we really couldn't give a damn.
If there is any justice in this world, Nick Cave and John Hillcoatwould be up for Academy Awards. Cave's screenplay betrays his classiceducation and is tight and, in parts, very raw. The performances inthis remarkable film are brilliant and often haunting. There is GuyPearce doing his level best to add a new dimension to his western asone of the Burns' gang who murder, rape and generally make a nuisancefor themselves in the Outback. Pearce's performance invokes memories ofPale Rider/Clint Eastwood or any cowboy that Clint has played. His isthe hostile lawbreaker, the outsider who is tormented by theProposition of the title which means he has to kill his elder brother,played superbly by Danny Huston or have his younger brother face thenoose.And then there is Ray Winstone and Emily Watson, both acting a littleagainst type. Watson plays Winstone's wife, a woman who passionatelyloves her husband but finds his employment frustrating and finds outwith horror how her best friend was killed. Winstone is the law mandesperately trying to find a way to tame the savage nature of bothprisoner and, in metaphor, the land. Even his wife is trying to growroses in the harsh landscape.The only jarring aspect in all of this, is David Wenham. From hisperformance in Lord of the Rings as Faramir, he is a capable andprecise actor but doesn't seem to quite convince as an Englishman inthis film. Perhaps it was the accent he finds difficulty with andthat's odd because both Winstone and other actors find their accentsrather more convincing.But hats off to Cave, above all, and also his haunting and uneasy musicto accompany this film. I sincerely hope he makes more films becausethey will be worth watching.
'The Proposition' is one of the dirtiest, bleakest films I've ever seen, and certainly the darkest western, far surpassing films like 'The Wild Bunch' or 'Unforgiven' in this respect. On the downside, 'The Proposition' is sometimes so obsessed with creating a mood of desolation that it forgets to have anything happen. This makes the film a bit of a disappointment, as it gets so much right but lets us down quite a bit on the simple story telling level. Still, it succeeds enough in these other respects that it's more than worthwhile, but you can't help but wonder how great this movie could've been if it had a bit more going for it with the plot. Of course, I think the extreme desolation of the film is partially rooted in it's slow pace and occasional uneventfulness, so perhaps they couldn't have punched up the plot w/o weakening the mood. I dunno. Still, you could hope for more.'The Proposition' centers around the three Burns brothers in 1880's Australia. They've recently been involved in a brutal murder and rape, and the two younger ones have been captured by Capt. Stanley. Stanley, however, isn't satisfied: Mikey is young and a simpleton, obviously not truly responsible for his actions, and Charlie seems remorseful, perhaps also corrupted by association. The leader, clearly, is Arthur, who is still at large with a cadre of killers. So, Stanley proposes that he release Charlie, and that Charlie's goes and kills Arthur, earning a pardon for both him and Mikey. If Charlie does not return with Arthur dead by Christmas, Mikey will be hanged. This central plot actually takes fairly little screen time, up until the very end. Charlie finds Arthur fairly quickly, but he, quite reasonably, doesn't act immediately. He doesn't know what to do. Arthur is, after all, his brother. The film focuses on Capt. Stanley as much, if not more than the Burns brothers. He is committed, as he famously states, to 'civilize this land.' This will not be easy, as he is not a monster, and this is a very monstrous land. He also wishes to protect his wife from the horrors of the country, but they're so numerous that this is not a simple task, the problem compounded by the fact that Eliza Hopkins, the murdered woman, was a friend of hers. Furthermore, one of Stanley's superiors is displeased with Stanley's deal, and he will fight against Stanley in honoring it. Stanley is at the heart of the film, a generally good man stuck in a hopeless situation, and his position is somewhat reflected in Charlie's dilemma as well. (Charlie isn't good, however, though he is better than most others around him, so it comes to much the same thing.)This is a gorgeous and gruesome film. The Australian desert is certainly reminiscent of the American, but it's somehow more foreboding and majestic, and director Hillcoat uses it beautifully. The film is as much about showing us the sun-scorched desert as it is anything else, so I hope you have a taste for it. I'd dare say that this film uses a desert locale better than any other film I can think of. Westerns are often interested in the clash of civilization with savagery, and 'The Proposition' shows this particularly well, largely due to the specific setting. The characters siding with law and order come from a Victorian-English background, an era which is at least perceived as being especially distant and obsessed with social mores, so the contrast is especially powerful. The desert is also filled with death and violence; the buzzing of flies is omnipresent, unknown bodies scatter the scenery. This is perhaps one of the most brutally violent films I've ever seen. That's not to say it's one of the goriest films I've seen, though it's definitely got moments like that, intensity and gore are not the same thing. (Indeed they're often contrary to one another, as gore usually turns into impersonal spectacle.) Scenes such as the lengthy scourging and a remorseless stomping murder have a sort of brute intensity rarely matched elsewhere. Needless to say, this film is not for the faint of heart.Performances are strong across the board. Guy Pearce, as Charlie, usually gets top billing, though he is perhaps one of the less memorable characters. He honestly exists more as a plot device than a person. Still, I like Pearce in general and he generates a certain amount of sympathy for his character even though he doesn't tell us much about himself. Ray Winstone's Capt. Stanley is more striking, and he's a truly sympathetic, almost tragic figure, as he works for his impossible tasks of controlling the land and protecting his wife. Emily Watson is also good as Martha Stanley, powerfully conveying the sort of horrified disbelief that overcomes her as she comes to see what life is really like there. Finally, John Hurt is memorable as a crazed, drunken bounty hunter also after Arthur. He's quite hammy, but he's still got real menace about him, and adds a bit of life to the picture.While the film is, as a whole, a bit low on action, it comes to life quite effectively at the end. I don't dare go into specifics, but it becomes quite intense, probably all the more so because of the slowness of the earlier scenes. It's a long buildup, but it proves to be worth it.I haven't done this film much justice in this review. It's quite a unique experience. You just have to watch it. If you wanna see the dankest, dreariest western around, this one's for you.Grade: B+P.S. Another reviewer noted that `The Proposition' was similar to some earlier westerns. [GASP!!!!] I'm stunned. Really. Who would've imagined it, a western influenced by earlier westerns. You learn something new every day I guess.
i haven't felt this good leaving a theatre in a long time. johnhillcoat and nick cave teamed up remarkably well on this film. thestory is so gritty and so ugly yet the film itself comes off beautiful.simple shots of nature are so soothing in the picture, then an act ofviolence will pull you out of it and make you realize the horror thecharacters are going through. i kept hearing how violent this film wasbut the criticisms against it are not warranted. i think the problempeople have with the violence in this film is that we see thecharacters with their families and we see the painful decisions theyhave to make that lead to violence. without a doubt, the driving forceof this film is family and the loyalty one has to it. this is a worthyaddition to the classic westerns we've seen through the years and oneof the best pictures I've seen in awhile.
Nick Cave wrote the screenplay for this western set in late 1800'sAustralia. It follows the lives of a lawman, an outlaw and the one whocomes between them as a mutual ally/enemy. It is very gritty with it'sdepictions of violence and cruelties of the time which may put off somepeople, but it is very rewarding to sit through. The struggle betweenthe Irish. Australian and Aboriginal people is truly mesmerizing andcaptured my attention throughout the whole film. One thing the film didwas portray every character as a good and bad element, making yousympathize and detest them, proving that there is never good/evil, butjust people.
Nick Cave's script and the performances of Guy Pearce, Danny Houstonand Ray Winstone render a vision as close to that of America's greatestliving writer (comparable to Herman Melville), Cormac McCarthy: leftunbridled, man will overthrow and destroy the moral forces of theuniverse. Against the backdrop of the Australian outback in the earlydays of the 20th century will man choose to civilize himself? Thatquestion is still the most pertinent one today. Winstone's "Everyman"Soldier risks his own life as well as that of his naively civilizedwife, beautifully played by Emily Watson, to bring order, morality andan end to idolatry of the self. Guy Pearce struggles to choose betweenfamilial blood ties and simple human decency. Danny Houston employs theessence of his own sweetness to render a modern villain in the guise ofthe Lord's avenging angle. Rarely does a cinematic script achieve totalensemble realization from cast and crew. Bravo!
This review is from: The Proposition [Blu-ray] (Blu-ray) I love this movie. This movie did not receive the publicity it deserves. This story of The Proposition is great and is put together in a beautiful way. This is not like any other western that you have every watch. There's not a lot of horse chases and standoffs with gun a blazin'. But there is suspense and violence that fit the story well.I don't know what else to say about the Proposition, it's fantastic. This is probably not a movie for the massess because there's not enough explosions and special effects I'm sure. If you like a good story and good acting and good directing then see this movie. The blu-ray transfer is outstanding as well.
Words come to mind we we think of movies. When someone asks, "How'd you like it," or "What'd ya think about it?" we immediately formulate a quick response, then fire it at them. Usually, "It was Good" "It was Great" "Loved it!" "Want my friggin money back!" and other such exclamations, you fill in the blank. But when I think of The Proposition, a movie I watched a few days ago, and am still haunted by it, I cant think of just one brief summation; but if I did I would have to say, The Proposition is incredible.How refreshing it is to see a NEW western. Growing up I would sit with my dad and watch the Duke, Eastwood, Ward Bond, Stewart, etcetera etcetera, and loved them. John Ford had massive Landscapes, Anthony Mann had his 73, Cooper was the only one in town brave enough to give a dang, and Dean Martin proved he wasn't just "the straight man" (Katie Elder). Probably the most obvious reason that westerns succeeded so long in the middle to early years of Hollywood was the clear-cut sense of Good and Bad... ok and Ugly. I always hoped that another would resurface, since the only good ones in recent years were Tombstone, Open Range and Unforgiven - and the mediocre Wyatt Earp and The Quick and the Dead. Others have come and gone, some really good, but amazingly... and prepare yourself... The Proposition has a punch that pales most all movies in general. This truly is an amazing work.The proposition is this, a man and his little brother are captured. He is told by the captain who captured them that if he can kill their murdering/rapist older brother, he will release them. Sounds like a simple story huh? Believe me, there are moments that you don't know how to feel. Villains turn out to be heroes, and heroes debate which side they want to be on. Sometimes, I intentionally don't go into grave detail about the plot, nor the characters, nor the actors that play them (Hint LOTR), because on occasion that's as much part of the surprise of the viewing experience. But bear in mind, The Proposition is violent. I have never mentioned violence before, if that tells you anything. But, none of it is untrue to the rough nature of the story.I also would like to mention, Kudos to the brilliant, unusual soundtrack. (Click my name to read review) It sets an eerie tone and complements the hellish visuals.I could literally go on and on, but just know I give this movie the s~a~o~s mark of approval, and I think that this movie will be haunting me for a while to come.
Put simply this is the best Australian movie I have seen for years. Aso-called Australian Western this is uniquely Australian and a must seefor both Australian audiences and international audiences who wouldhave no idea what living in early 'civilised' Australia must have beenlike. Well acted with top internationally recognized talent (Pearce andWinstone are fantastic), beautiful landscapes, and a violent yetsomewhat beautiful and (again) unique story, I hope this movie is seenwell beyond the Art-house, and I hope there is adequate marketingbecause this movie is so much better than the run-of-the-mill stuff weusually see in the cinema.
I awaited this film for quite some time (not having a theater in myhometown there was no plausible way of me seeing this film and thisfact combined with the films stupidly limited releases forced me intousing other means to view it). I'll admit right away that I over-hypedthe film for a long time before I finally saw it (Guy Pearce being afavorite actor and dark Westerns being a favorite genre) which isusually a principal ingredient in the recipe for disaster.The Proposition is a brilliant, beautiful and very poetic film (thejuxtaposition of the harsh, ugliness of humanity and the beauty oflanguage and nature is especially chilling in many scenes and addseverything to the shared humanity element making this film sopowerful).I'm not going to go into too much in fear or spoiling something in theplot, but do NOT LET YOURSELF MISS THIS FILM. I've been very interestedin checking out Nick Cave's fiction for some time and I think this filmwill finally inspire me to do so.One of the best Westerns released during my lifetime.
OK, honestly i was intrigued by the premise, and that this was awestern, and one with Guy Pearce in it. My idea of a western is notnecessarily a bloodbath or slurring cowboys but i surely did not expectthe kind of Shakespearean fest that this one is. The cinematography isexcellent, the sights are awesome and the sets look realistic, but thestory progresses a little too slowly for my taste. Also, it could havebeen explained better, but he i guess it wasn't because that is thepoint of these artsy things. You have to look into the little detailsand make up your own mind and explain scenes with words such as'ironic'. Like towards the end when, over dinner, Martha thanks thelord for what they are about to receive and the Burns gang busts in andtortures her husband.What is worse is that the shootings and the 'knife-work' is mostlyshown off-screen through sound effects. Well, at least it was too lessfor my taste. It had the capacity for some as evidenced in the scenewhere an aboriginal spears Guy's character and them has his head blownoff. I wouldn't have mind all the singing and the other Shakespeareanstuff in there if the movie was also true to the violence as it was tothe singing.The worst part, though, is that i could not really get any of thecharacters. All of them were under-defined and all of them seemeddepressed. I mean not one character was happy when sober. Not one!
I really thought this was a gem and it blends a lot together. If youare a fan of Nick Cave it will also be a treat. However not for theeasily disturbed. I am happy to be blessed with the opportunity to seethis movie. Where I currently live gets a lack of films which reallydisappoints me. It was pleasantly surprising to see that this wasshowing, sadly though I was one of two people in the theaters. The lackof people who like good films or at least try new films makes it hardfor these types of films to be made. Please support great gems like theProposition.Sincerely,Chris
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